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Sun-n-Fun 2023

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:20 pm
by Bryan Cotton
Hey all,
Mid March I'm planning a trip to Tennessee to visit my parents with Adam, and take my dad for a ride. Then two weeks later repeat the trip with my youngest Matthew, and then go on to Sun-n-Fun. Anybody else going?

Re: Sun-n-Fun 2023

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 2:30 pm
by Area 51%
Yup

Re: Sun-n-Fun 2023

PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:19 am
by pilotyoung
I'm planning on going.

Re: Sun-n-Fun 2023

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:16 pm
by Bryan Cotton
Has anybody used the ADSB deviation tool to get into Sun-n-Fun before? Or does the NOTAM change the mode C veil?
https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/technol ... adsb/adapt

Re: Sun-n-Fun 2023

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 3:07 pm
by GraemeSmith
Bryan Cotton wrote:Has anybody used the ADSB deviation tool to get into Sun-n-Fun before? Or does the NOTAM change the mode C veil?
https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/technol ... adsb/adapt


A couple of thoughts....

Operating without ADSB in that part of the world might not be a great decision. You could make it "legal" but it might not be salfe.

Even if you get an exemption - in the heat of the moment ATC may not accept it:

"An ADS-B deviation authorization granted using ADAPT does not equal, nor does it guarantee, an ATC clearance into airspace where ADS-B Out equipment is required."

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Round here in New England you will get it if it is to make a trip to an Avionics shop for a repair. But it is not given as a sort of "routine" way of operating without ADSB for a non-equipped plane. Attending something like SnF would be considered "elective" and you should equip. At least around here.

Re: Sun-n-Fun 2023

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 3:15 pm
by Bryan Cotton
It seems like in prior years, they have excluded the airspace over KLAL by NOTAM. I'm hoping it's the same this year.

I agree that ADSB is great. Money and time are the only barriers. I won't have ADSB in March.

Re: Sun-n-Fun 2023

PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:36 pm
by tps8903
I'll be there with my new Sonex. Lucky for me KLAL is 49nm from my airport and my testflight radius is 50nm. If memory serves, there is an ADSB exemption in a corridor through the KMCO airspace for Sun n Fun. However, central FL is crazy busy during normal times. It'll be tough work flying in here without ADSB.

Re: Sun-n-Fun 2023

PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:38 pm
by Bryan Cotton
The notam published last week. It does have the ADSB exclusion. Pushes the 30 mile mode C veil over.

Re: Sun-n-Fun 2023

PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:03 pm
by Bryan Cotton
Due to family issues no Sun-n-Fun for me.

Re: Sun-n-Fun 2023

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:13 pm
by GraemeSmith
From the NOTAM


REQUESTS TO DEVIATE FROM MODE C TRANSPONDER REQUIREMENT
Tampa Class B Mode C Veil Graphic
Operators of aircraft not equipped with Mode C transponders may operate within the Tampa Class B Mode
C veil to attend the Sun ’n Fun Aerospace Expo at LAL along the following ATC- designated route:
At and below 2,500 FT MSL east of Highway 39.
Remain outside of the lateral boundary of the Tampa Class B airspace. Aircraft must follow the LAL arrival
and departure procedures.
CAUTION: This notice does not constitute authorization to enter the Tampa Class B airspace.
Orlando Class B Mode C Veil Graphic
Operators of aircraft not equipped with Mode C transponders may operate within the Orlando Class B Mode
C veil to attend the Sun ’n Fun Aerospace Expo at LAL along the following ATC- designated routes:
Northwest portion of Orlando Class B: At or below 2,500 FT MSL along a route that passes over the city of
Deland, Lake Apopka, and the City of Clermont. Remain northwest of V152.
Southern portion of Orlando Class B: At or below 2,500 FT MSL south of V441 along a route over the
center of Lake Hatchineha and east of the City of Winter Haven. Remain outside of the lateral boundaries of
the Orlando Class B airspace and outside R-2901E.
CAUTION: This notice does not constitute authorization to enter the Orlando Class B airspace.