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accident N393SX

Postby WaiexN143NM » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:43 pm

Hi all,
Today feb10 article on N393SXon http://www.kathrynsreport.com
reports LeRoy has serious injuries. Hope he is getting better and on the mend.

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Re: accident N393SX

Postby XenosN42 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:24 am

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Re: accident N393SX

Postby lpaaruule » Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:44 pm

If I'm reading the report right, it sounds like the cause of the accident was improperly assembled rocker arms.

Is this a more complicated portion of the overall assembly process?
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Re: accident N393SX

Postby sonex1374 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:14 pm

Paul,

The accident report is confusing in that it runs from the current accident right into the past accident from 3 yrs ago. In that old accident Leroy's engine lost power due to broken valve adjusters. He told us that a local "expert" helped him set up the valve train geometry and the adjusters were screwed nearly all the way out. Setting the adjusters is specifically addressed in the AeroVee manual (nearly all the way screwed in), and it's really unfortunate that this situation caused him to have an accident.

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Re: accident N393SX

Postby mike.smith » Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:40 pm

lpaaruule wrote:If I'm reading the report right, it sounds like the cause of the accident was improperly assembled rocker arms.

Is this a more complicated portion of the overall assembly process?


Nope. It's very simple. A wrench, flat head screwdriver and a 0.006 feeler. It takes me about 15-20 minutes to do all my valve adjustments every 50 hours on the AeroVee.
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Re: accident N393SX

Postby Bryan Cotton » Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:50 pm

But initially you have to shim them to the specified geometry. Was not hard, my 14 year old (at the time) did it.
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Re: accident N393SX

Postby fastj22 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:32 pm

The Kathryns report shows two accidents. One in 2016, caused by engine failure (the result instigating the B-model conversion), and the one in 2018 after the B-model conversion and engine swap, due to drifting into trees on final.

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Re: accident N393SX

Postby lpaaruule » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:06 am

Thanks for the clarification everyone.

I hope LeRoy makes a full and complete recovery.
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Re: accident N393SX

Postby radfordc » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:50 am

I can empathize with Leroy. My airport also has a tall tree just off the runway center line at the threshold. When you're slow on final the tree disappears under the nose of the plane and isn't very visible. When approaching from that end of the runway I always stayed higher than the tree and landed 1/3 of the way down the runway.
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Re: accident N393SX

Postby Gripdana » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:33 am

Sounds like a short field landing over a 50 foot obstacle would be appropriate for those conditions. If it is not a short field you get the extra benefit of a long runway.
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