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What's Not Included

Postby BobDz » Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:25 pm

Just curious if anyone has compiled a "what's not included" list?

My idea is to use such a list for my adventure at AirVenture 24 (AKA mega shopping trip).

Some parts and pieces are obvious, like avionics, etc. But what about all the miscellaneous stuff?

TIA
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Re: What's Not Included

Postby Bryan Cotton » Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:47 pm

Sounds painful. I don't recommend doing that. The cool thing is ACS will ship stuff via USPS for when you need 3 bolts or something.

What I did was to keep a running list of stuff I needed, and when I needed something now I would pull the trigger.
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Re: What's Not Included

Postby Area 51% » Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:21 pm

Aircraft Spruce has the needed hardware listed on their website. Buy the bolts with care as they tend to be too long or too short.
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Re: What's Not Included

Postby BobDz » Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:09 pm

So I've started a list. Actually in EXCEL - I'm weird that way :)

Nut plates and hardware.
Fuel line and fittings.
Fuel filter.
Fuel shutoff.
Fuel tank vent and fittings.
Pitot/ Static line and fittings.
Mixture control.j
Switches.
Breakers (or fuse block).
USB/ Lighter outlet.
Ground bus bar (probably will make).
Power bus bar.
Avionics bus bar.
Battery.
Landing light.
N numbers.
Cable clamps.
Ring terminals.
Wire, Coax, and Cable.
Seat belts.
Starter solenoid.
Master solenoid.
Voltage regulator.
Headset Jack's.
Position lights (maybe).
Strobe (maybe).

Feel free to add to the list. I left off avionics because that's a beast that needs its own zoo.

I'll format and organize my EXCEL spreadsheet, and make a PDF available to anyone that asks.
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Re: What's Not Included

Postby Bryan Cotton » Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:10 pm

My A model kit came with a fuel shutoff.

I have a ground bus under the panel, which is just an aluminum angle. This is for avionics. It connects to another aluminum angle under a starter bolt which is the ground for everything under the cowl.
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You don't really need a power bus. Power goes to the main breaker and then feeds all the other breakers. I have the output of my master going to the starter and the main breaker.

The sky-tek starter that comes with the Aerovee kit has an integral relay. I just have a pushbutton going to the start terminal.

I really like my mechanical master switch instead of a conventional electric solenoid. Saves some weight and saves 1 amp - 5% of your Aerovee output.
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A VR also comes in the Aerovee kit. I highly recommend the John Deere regulator which you can find in the electrical section of the forum.
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My ICS came with jacks.
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Re: What's Not Included

Postby WilliamBatten » Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:00 am

Bob, you have a good list started. I'll add a few components that are on my list.

ELT (Unless your building a Onex)
Battery Minder
Seats
CO2 Detector
Flight Control Grip
Oil Cooler
Oil Cooler hoses
Fire Sleeve
Flap Switch (If you have electric flaps)
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Re: What's Not Included

Postby BobDz » Fri Feb 09, 2024 12:21 pm

WilliamBatten wrote:Bob, you have a good list started. I'll add a few components that are on my list.

ELT (Unless your building a Onex)
Battery Minder
Seats
CO2 Detector
Flight Control Grip
Oil Cooler
Oil Cooler hoses
Fire Sleeve
Flap Switch (If you have electric flaps)


Excellent additions!
Thanks
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Re: What's Not Included

Postby daleandee » Fri Feb 09, 2024 12:40 pm

From another thread we learned that one item not included with the kit is motivation ! Many have it to start with and others need some to help them finish ...
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Re: What's Not Included

Postby BobDz » Fri Feb 09, 2024 12:44 pm

daleandee wrote:From another thread we learned that one item not included with the kit is motivation ! Many have it to start with and others need some to help them finish ...


Well said!
That will be #1 on my next edit!
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Re: What's Not Included

Postby BobDz » Fri Feb 09, 2024 2:18 pm

Go Pro mount(s)
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